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Gotta say. That’s a solid birbiglia impression.

Watching this episode is my new happy place. The deep conversation and two very different very good blue outfits. 💙

Interesting interview in places. You touched on the value and nuances of incongruity- you might find the philosophy of comedy fun Humorous amusement is not just any response to incongruity, but a way of enjoying incongruity. Michael Clark, for example, offers these three features as necessary and sufficient for humor: 1 A person perceives (thinks, imagines) an object as being incongruous. 2 The person enjoys perceiving (thinking, imagining) the object. 3 The person enjoys the perceived (thought, imagined) incongruity at least partly for itself, rather than solely for some ulterior reason (in Morreall 1987, 139-155). Plato, the most influential critic of laughter, treated laughter as an emotion that overrides rational self-control. In the Republic (388e), he says that the Guardians of the state should avoid laughter, “for ordinarily when one abandons himself to violent laughter, his condition provokes a violent reaction.” Especially disturbing to Plato were the passages in the Iliad and the Odyssey where Mount Olympus was said to ring with the laughter of the gods. He protested that “if anyone represents men of worth as overpowered by laughter we must not accept it, much less if gods.” Another of Plato’s objections to laughter is that it is malicious. In Philebus (48-50), he analyzes the enjoyment of comedy as a form of scorn. “Taken generally,” he says, “the ridiculous is a certain kind of evil, specifically a vice.” That vice is self-ignorance: the people we laugh at imagine themselves to be wealthier, better looking, or more virtuous than they really are. In laughing at them, we take delight in something evil-their self-ignorance-and that malice is morally objectionable. Because of these objections to laughter and humor, Plato says that in the ideal state, comedy should be tightly controlled. “We shall enjoin that such representations be left to slaves or hired aliens, and that they receive no serious consideration whatsoever. No free person, whether woman or man, shall be found taking lessons in them.” “No composer of comedy, iambic or lyric verse shall be permitted to hold any citizen up to laughter, by word or gesture, with passion or otherwise” (Laws, 7: 816e; 11: 935e). Greek thinkers after Plato had similarly negative comments about laughter and humor. Though Aristotle considered wit a valuable part of conversation (Nicomachean Ethics 4, 8), he agreed with Plato that laughter expresses scorn. Wit, he says in the Rhetoric (2, 12), is educated insolence. In the Nicomachean Ethics (4, 8) he warns that “Most people enjoy amusement and jesting more than they should … a jest is a kind of mockery, and lawgivers forbid some kinds of mockery-perhaps they ought to have forbidden some kinds of jesting.” The Stoics, with their emphasis on self-control, agreed with Plato that laughter diminishes self-control. Epictetus’s Enchiridion (33) advises “Let not your laughter be loud, frequent, or unrestrained.” His followers said that he never laughed at all. These objections to laughter and humor influenced early Christian thinkers, and through them later European culture. Later philosophers were less skeptical of humour. Called incongruity theory of humour ( Aristotle briefly covers it as a form of humour but mostly focused on negatives of cycnicism/irony. Schopenhauer locates it between our sense perceptions of things and our abstract rational knowledge of those same things. We perceive unique individual things with many properties. But when we group our sense perceptions under abstract concepts, we focus on just one or a few properties of any individual thing. Thus we lump quite different things under one concept and one word. Eg a Chihuahua and a St. Bernard categorized under dog. For Schopenhauer, humor arises when we suddenly notice the incongruity between a concept and a perception that are supposed to be of the same thing. As an example, Schopenhauer tells of the prison guards who allowed a convict to play cards with them, but when they caught him cheating, they kicked him out. He also comments on an Austrian joke : When someone had declared that he was fond of walking alone, an Austrian said to him: “You like walking alone; so do I: therefore we can go together.” Then he relates it back to scorn and why all preceding and some current to his time philosophers focused on scorn That the laughter of others at what we do or say seriously offends us so keenly depends on the fact that it asserts that there is a great incongruity between our conceptions and the objective realities. For the same reason, the predicate “ludicrous” or “absurd” is insulting. The laugh of scorn announces with triumph to the baffled adversary how incongruous were the conceptions he cherished with the reality which is now revealing itself to him (Supplement to Book I, Ch. 8). ( much of this is from someone who posted an essay of theirs online)

Divorce wasn't legalised in Ireland till 1997, unbelievable but true.

This roast was top tier

This is so inspiring

I Would have liked to have listened to the whole interview because I LOVE Ilana, but Mike's vocal fry made that impossible.

I binge these whenever I can. Great show. Thanks for making them.

This is great! I love comedy that has pathos. Joking about sad things helps people that have gone through similar things

For the first second you can see that both of guys don't like each other

Catastrophe was SO underrated. ♥

This is absolutely incredible premise and story. I hope to catch this in Texas!

Coney Island mascot is crazy

I don't know who originally said this but I had a teacher teaching Shakespeare once tell me that the difference between a tragedy and a comedy is where you put the ending.

She needs to wake up to the fact that her dad is right.

All these episodes are good. This one is great.

Where has this woman been all my life

Thank you once again, this warms my heart to hear people working it out too. Plus re putting stuff out there before ready, I’m sharing videos right now that are terrible cause I’m new at it. I don’t want to be new or bad and I’m kind of shutting my eyes and pretending I don’t see! By the end of the year I’ll be better right?

Ah! I recently saw her show at The Den Theatre and loved it! Good interview you two! Thanks!

Now I’d like to hear the rest of the avocado bit

MA is repressed because it's filled with judgmental neurotypical aholes. So all the people who actually want to have fun and enjoy life in their way have been afraid to for fear of brutal bullying. People there get fired for being autistic and it's still legal to electroshock autistic kids. So that's why us weird people couldn't be ourselves and let loose.

Love Greg! This one was so funny.

I honestly think Seth Meyers would hate me in real life because I want tariffs from Trump, but I really love him a lot.

How long has Pete Holmes attempted to be "edgy?"

Put these two together for guaranteed hilarity!!

"You Made it Work"

These guys are 100% the best "podcast bros" out there

"Dip dip dip dip dip the hat", Fully formed perfect bit, hilarious.

"I guess we will never understand each other" is a madness of a punchline. I love it.

"Every side has two stories" is a very cool line.

MIKE! Can you please have Hank Green on the pod? He is about to do a comedy special about how he pissed out all his cancer 😂😂😂

I do wish I had conversations go this well.

This Chris guy seems like the most likable person. A dude like this makes cool friends seem worth scouring high a low for.

it's actually stressing me out that he is not writing down some of those hilarious observations

46:38 Mike, the Georgia joke is about language and misunderstanding. The same thing applies to your conversations with your father. You're speaking the same language, but sometimes can't understand each other. That's how it fits into the show.

Thing about birthdays is, all it takes is 365 guesses and you're hacked.

Pete again????

It's somewhat depressing that a gay version of the mainstream teen comedy like Bottoms, very common in the 80s-90s, now barely exists and is known as a marginal indie film.

Every time they do each others podcast I could watch 5 hours of it. The buddy cop movie we didn't know we needed. GOOD Cop DRY Cop: Sweet Dreams

Anyone else been riding for Chris since Gayle came out 10 years ago 😅

That justice component is something huge.

Mike, do you ever feel like your dad communicating is like a woman from Georgia saying something? Sometimes my dad’s responses or questions to me are so foreign but still in English I feel like I have to say “Hat?!” That may be the connection…

double down on the bird parallel.

Not only is the author in this book, He IS the book. John 1.

OMG, Pete's impression of Mike killed me!

As someone who grew up in Shrewsbury, I love hearing about St. Mary's and the town in general. Y'all are great!

Republicans and democrats love to laugh. Trump is funny, Biden is funny, and we are all stupid. ❤

With the dad thing, we want to think they did the dad stuff of reading history books and smoking pipes... But they definitiely were pounding off. All alone in the house? For once a week? You tug it raw! That's why people bought those giant coffee table books, to hide the Playboy inside if the family got home early! "No I wasn't masturbating, I was looking at photos of history's greatest biplanes!"

Man these 2 just make me so happy. I love this friendship so much. It's just perfect

Both these guys look like they were created by a dr Frankenstein type characters, but all he had to use to put together the bodies was different types of bread.